Constant vibrations

Hi all!

I know I’ve posted about this before, but starting to go in circles with what’s going on and can’t seem to figure it out.

a few months back (4k miles on truck) I started noticing vibrations when driving, pretty much all speeds above 15 or so. The faster I get it gets worse, and starts to even back out around 80. Sometimes when coasting down a large hill on the highway without acceleration the vibration goes to very minimal.

dealer balanced, discount tire balanced and road force, dealer balanced again. Still no resolution.

dealer recently worked with Toyota and did 3 alignments, replaced front tires due to the common alignment issue with baldness on outer edge.

now on a new set of front tires, and alignment. Just took a 400 mile trip and vibrated the Whole entire time.. I tried to experiment (coasting down hills, different speeds, etc) and nothing really took it away. As mentioned above, coasting down a hill seemed to resolve some of it.

I can feel vibrations in the steering wheel , floor board, top of door panels, gas pedal, etc.

I was in slow traffic going 15 mph and could still even feel almost a wobble vibration.

my question is, maybe it really isn’t the tires? I got underneath and tried to move the driveshaft in front and back, I didn’t notice anything weird but has anyone seen or heard of them being off balance on the new gens?

this 400 mile trip was really frustrating, a truck with 6k miles should not drive like this and I feel like I’ll continue to go in circles trying to find a resolution.

any thoughts?

 

Sorry for your troubles. That would frustrate the hell out of me too.

Did they give you a print out of the alignment sheet? Does it include the Vehicle Height measurement?

Matt

 

No they said they had more paperwork to fill out for Toyota so I didn’t leave with anything. I already made an appointment to take it back. I just hope this isn’t a constant back and forth trying to figure out what the heck it is lol

 

I know it seems odd, and I believe I posted this on your other thread, but there are actually 18 different alignment specs for these new trucks depending on vehicle height. My OCD absolutely hates vibrations, so this topic is on my radar.

None of the alignment sheets I've seen show the Vehicle Height measurements. Which leads me to believe the dealership service centers are just using a generic spec instead of following Toyota's specs. That would be the conversation I'd have with your service manager, if you haven't already.

Here's the alignment spec sheet if you didn't get it before. I'd print it out and take it with you on your next visit to the stealership.

 

I appreciate it. Could an alignment cause this vibration though? I have a case open with Toyota, may see if they will cover taking it to a certified alignment shop (doubtful). Not looking forward to the 400 mile trip home.

 

Just make sure you document everything, and I mean EVERYTHING relating to this issue.

I’d also try to video the vibration if you can do it safely.

Sadly, this appears to be approaching lemon law status. If so, the more info you have the better.

 

I hope not.. I must have terrible luck. Got rid of a Sierra before this that was a lemon LOL.
I’m just going to have them completely go through everything possible. Test a new set of wheels and tires, check the diff, driveline, transmission mounts, engine mounts, etc. like I said previously it didn’t start till around 4k miles. So something had to have worn or broke since it didn’t originally come like this. No one else seems to be having this issue or anything that I can find, and even the pro alignment issues don’t seem to notate vibrations..

 

I would first try to figure out if it's a tire/wheel issue or not. Maybe try swapping out your wheels. If you can't find any to swap them all out, maybe try swapping in the spare tire one at a time. Or even swapping the fronts with the rears to see if the vibration moves more to the seat rather than the steering wheel. Also make sure the alignment cams are tight and not moving.

 

Have done the tire swapping, spare, etc, nothing has changed anything. The only thing I haven’t done and maybe the dealer can is just put on a whole set of different wheels/tires to see if that does anything. If not then they need to explore the other components. Sometimes I feel like it’s coming from the rear, but if the steering wheel is vibrating/shaking and I can feel it in the door panel arm rest, console, floor board then maybe it’s in the front?

 

Not the same vehicle but my wife's 4Runner had a vibration issue that the dealer couldn't fix and actually made worse. Took it to Firestone for an alignment and explained the issues she was having. They worked on it for 2-3 hours with test drives and when they were done it was vibration free. We drove it for another 1 year or more before selling and the vibes never came back. Hate to hear about your troubles but maybe a 3rd party willing to put in a little work could get it right.

 

Yeah I may try to go to Firestone and see what they can do. Dealer definitely isn’t specialist in tires lol

 

I'm having the exact same problems and also pretty much since 4000 miles. I put new wheels and tires on right before 5000 mile rotate. Things were fine. Then after 10k oil change and next tire rotate at the dealer, my truck wobbled and has been shaking every since.

I went back to dealer, they rotated back to how they were, shake still there. I'm getting extremely frustrated at this point. I go back to tire shop, the suggest hubcentric rings because of the aftermarket Method wheels so I go that route, truck still shakes.

The truck has been aligned four different times, still no change in the shaking. I noticed the front tires that have since been moved to the back are wearing unevenly, you can tell by the chicken strip on inside and outside of tread.

I also have since installed the Westcott level kit. Things have gotten worse, . Jumping on this thread in hopes of my 50k truck driving like it should.

 

Had the same issue but at higher speed, 65mph+. Issue was resolved after I got it rebalanced at a dealer for lug centric road force.

 

Most of the bad vibrations for me are 60+mph and then goes away at 80 plus.

 

Hello all, I’ve joined this forum when I located this thread. I’m having the same vibration issue with my wife’s 2023 limited sequoia 4x4. Initially the issue started between 45 and 50 mph at 1200 to 1500rpm. Took it to the local dealer and they were confident it was a balance issue. Received the vehicle and still noticed the vibration but seems to have moved up to 50mph at 1700 to 1800rpm. I’m about to escalate this to cooperate. My 2023 limited 4x4 tundra doesn’t have this issue at the moment. Any advice?

 

The part that bums me the most is to even have the dealer look at it with an unbiased eye, I would have to take the Westcott kit and go back to factory wheels/tires. Otherwise they would write it off immediately. This started well before either were installed but they would be looking for an easy out and have one right away with the truck not in its stock form.

 

A weight could have fallen off of the driveshaft, which are individually balanced.

 

I had a similar situation with my 2008 Tundra.

Turns out Toyota swapped out the drive shaft. Took care of it.

Id ask your dealership to swap the drive shaft.

 

I’ve just read on a fb post that one owner had wheels and drive shaft replaced. That same owner had an alignment and balance done as well but none of those corrected the issue. She ended up trading for a Highlander.

 

Just an update. I escalated my issue to corporate and they told me the dealer could not duplicate the issue so they will close my case. I explained to them that the vehicle didn’t do this when I drove it off the lot. When I was on the phone with them I was currently driving the vehicle and it was still vibrating and I advised them of it. I know there should be a tolerance for interior vibration and began requesting the specification for that tolerance range. We have since disabled the lane departure warning as some times the vibration could be a mistaken for the lane departure warning vibration when driving long distances. I will make an attempt to do a test drive with a fts and will then look at legal options. I just really didn’t expect this from Toyota. SMH

 

Toyota corporate has told me that the vibration is not abnormal. It’s gotten worse since we noticed the first vibrations and now the sequoia has started vibrating while decelerating with no brake pressed. I have no choice but to take them to court. I was going to trade it in but I’m going to be upside down. Really disappointed in Toyota.

 

Has anyone resolved this problem yet? Dealer still giving the same old “characteristic” of the vehicle excuse.

 

I’ve had a similar issue happening with highway vibrations. Goes back and forth from what I feel would be totally acceptable road induced feedback to feeling like the truck is going to jackhammer itself apart. I’ve owned many vehicles, including other full size pickups, driven on the same road to work for 15 years and I’ve never experienced anything like it. I asked the dealer to drive it above 70mph on the highway to see if they felt anything and they put less than two miles on it during the test drive (the closest highway onramp is more than a mile from the dealer) and said it drove smooth as glass. So they clearly don’t care to help.

There are a few people dealing with this on here.

 

I test drove a capstone sequoia off the lot. Thing was on the larger wheels and that suv vibrated more than my sequoia. I think people are so excited about purchasing the vehicle that these problems are over looked. After the driver becomes use to the vehicle they begin noticing the problem. By then it’s too late and you’re stuck with a $80k vibrator that just gets worse. Toyota needs to be held accountable .

 

There’s some truth to that as the excitement makes you do stupid things.

I don’t expect perfection (it’s a truck with a solid axle), but surely it shouldn’t do what it does.

 

One thing that might help is to get an *objective* measurement of the vibes. I'm sure there are professional tools for this, but you can also get apps that tap into your phone's accelerometers. Then do some test runs and record the data. Maybe find another smooth driving Tundra and repeat for comparison. If you have hard data, it will be more difficult for them to dismiss you. Although you guys with aftermarket lifts are probably SOL.

 

Are you utilizing ET style lug nuts with your Method wheels?

 

From my experience when vibration occurs at a wide variety of speeds the vibration is not due to wheel balance or anything associated with the wheels. I had an alignment guy tell me that if the vibration is at one specific speed than it is likely the wheels being out of balance, but if it is at a wide variety of speeds than it is probably something else. As I started to observe over the next 15 years, it seemed to be true. Any time I had a vibration that was isolated to one narrow window of speeds, it was usually due to a wheel(s) not being balanced. For example there would be no vibration from 0-45 mph, but then when I would hit 45 mph it would start to vibrate, and I would continue to increase speed and it would continue to vibrate, and then at 50-55 mph it would completely stop, and as I sped up to 60-70 mph the vibration was still gone. If it occurred over a wide range than it usually turned out to be U-joints from the driveshaft or axle shafts. And when I have had a driveshaft U-joint start to go bad, the vibration started at low speed and got worse as I increased speed.

So in the OPs case I would say it may be associated with with driveshaft balance or axle/CV shaft balance. Like someone above mentioned, maybe a weight came off of a driveshaft. Or maybe there is an issue with one of the CV axles. My brother-in-law was a mechanic and I remember he had some kind of vibration meter for these types of vibrations, and he would use it to determine the frequency of vibration. Then you can narrow it down by that frequency. The engine rotates at a different speed than the drivelines, which rotate at a different speed than the axles and wheels. So once you find the frequency you can narrow down the components that could be causing it. I have never used a frequency meter, so I don't have a recommendation for the tool, but thought I would mention it in case it helps someone.

Can you tell by feel what the frequency is (generally)? Does it feel like it is a 1:1 ratio with the rotation of the wheels? Does it feel much faster than that? If it is three or four vibrations per wheel revolution then this would indicate drivelines.

 

Hey all New to the Forum and have a 2024 Tundra Limited 4x4 that I have about 2100 miles on doing the same crap and starting to go circles with my dealer as I'm on the 2nd trip to them. I figured I would do a search to see if anyone else is having this and too my surprise as I've been a Toyota lifer there is a tone to the looks of it. I have already told my dealer me paying 70k for a truck this is not OK and most likely due to reading this thread just get a Lawyer and Lemon it now save me the pain and suffering unless someone found a fix. I have 2" ready lift and spent over 3k on wheels and tires and countless alignments balances and craziness. This is uncalled for

 

Was your truck having this issue before you changed the stock wheels and tires, and installed an aftermarket lift?